The Huang Filecase file · v0.1
claim C-0043 Qualified

DePue: "conclusive forensic evidence" the top 4 Chinese labs built their newest models on Blackwell

“I’ve found conclusive forensic evidence that the top 4 Chinese AI labs—DeepSeek, Moonshot, MiniMax and Ant Group—have built their newest models on NVIDIA’s most advanced Blackwell chips, which are barred from export to China.”
Exact wording, per S-0044
Date
2026-11-12
Claimed by
Will DePue (former OpenAI researcher; Unemployment Labs) (named)
Via
S-0044 · X (post + thread)
Topics
blackwell
File
claims/C-0043-depue-conclusive-forensic-evidence-the-top-4-chinese-labs-bu.md

Qualified by the author's own report. The report calls the DeepSeek-V4-Flash evidence "conclusive" for initialization, says the other five are "strong evidence", and says initialization "supports, without proving" training on Blackwell (F-0043). DeepSeek's newest model (V4.1-Flash) gave no signature (F-0044). State of AI noted the gap between the thread's wording and the report's. Underlying method: C-0044.

Sources

  • S-0044 · X (post + thread) · 2026-11-12 · link (full)
  • S-0045 · Unemployment Labs (report) · 2026-11-12 · link (full)

Related

  • F-0042 Will DePue posts thread and report claiming Blackwell fingerprints in Chinese open-weight models
  • F-0043 The DePue report states its own limits: initialization is not training, and location, ownership and legality are not established

Referenced by (1)

  • fact F-0042 Will DePue posts thread and report claiming Blackwell fingerprints in Chinese open-weight models